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In his first interview since resigning from OpenAI, David Robinson discusses why he left the company over safety concerns. Robinson, a Rhodes Scholar and Yale Law graduate with a background in civil rights advocacy and White House advising, joined OpenAI in 2023 initially viewing AI as a useful tool rather than an…
Worth it if you're interested in AI safety, organizational culture at tech companies, or want to hear directly from someone who left OpenAI over safety concerns.
Ezra Klein explores the widespread feeling that the modern world is becoming uglier or more aesthetically drab. The episode opens by noting Trump's aesthetic theory—visible in his gilded Oval Office and executive orders favoring classical architecture—as one political response to this sentiment. Klein frames the…
Worth it if you're curious about why modern design feels uninspired, interested in how aesthetics intersect with politics, or want to understand the right's classical-architecture push from a design perspective.
Ezra Klein interviews Bill Gates about artificial intelligence risks and the need for government regulation. Gates argues that AI alarmism hasn't gone far enough, warning of catastrophic cyberattacks, bioterrorism, and mass job displacement in the coming years. He contends that the idea of industry self-regulation is…
Worth it if you want Gates's perspective on AI regulation and catastrophic risks, or are interested in how tech leaders view government's role in managing AI development.
Ezra Klein interviews Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate in Michigan, in a 94-minute conversation designed to cut through the "heat" and provide substantive "light" on his actual positions. El-Sayed has been heavily scrutinized this election cycle, facing attacks centered on his Muslim faith…
Worth it if you're interested in 2026 Michigan politics, want to hear directly from El-Sayed on health care and foreign policy, or are curious about the Democratic Party's direction on these contested issues.
Ezra Klein interviews Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, at the company's Santa Clara headquarters. Huang leads the world's most valuable company, which designs the chips and infrastructure powering the AI industry, giving him outsized influence in both the tech sector and the Trump administration. The episode's central…
Worth it if you want to hear directly from one of AI's most powerful figures on why he rejects existential risk concerns, or if you're interested in understanding the industry's regulatory stance from a key decision-maker.