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Pablo Torre Finds Out ·Sep 25, 2026 ·52 min

Share & Krang & Tell with Michael Cruz Kayne and Katie Nolan

Evaluation and Summary

4.5/10

Pablo Torre Finds Out brings together Michael Cruz Kayne (host of "But Also") and Katie Nolan (host of "Casuals") for a wide-ranging conversation spanning sports, politics, celebrity culture, and bodily autonomy. The episode opens with discussion of Donald Trump Jr.'s Bahamas wedding, which ProPublica revealed was secretly funded by a Russian oligarch with ties to Putin—raising questions about how oligarchic influence infiltrates even personal celebrations and what that means for transparency and power dynamics. The conversation then pivots to Kim Kardashian's reality show "Team Moms," which The Guardian critiques as highlighting the absurd excess of the US youth-sports industrial complex. This leads into broader analysis of how private equity and celebrity involvement corrupt youth athletics, with references to "The Pay-to-Play Childhood" reporting. The episode touches on bodily autonomy ("are you the maestro of your own body?"), suggesting discussion of the trans-athlete debate mentioned in the description, though the show notes don't elaborate on depth or angle. There are lighter segments covering non-suntans, a callback to previous Harambe coverage ("The Harambe Tapes, Revealed"), and a humorous reference to winning a "Poo-litzer" (likely a joke award). The episode runs 52 minutes, suggesting room for substantive conversation but also potential for tangential banter. The guest lineup—two established podcast hosts with their own shows—indicates peer-level conversation rather than expert reporting, though both Kayne and Nolan have sports media credibility. The show notes reference serious investigative journalism (ProPublica, The Guardian, New York magazine) as jumping-off points, suggesting the hosts are engaging with real reporting rather than pure speculation. However, the show notes don't indicate whether the hosts add original analysis, conduct interviews, or simply riff on existing stories. The tone appears to blend serious cultural criticism with irreverent humor, mixing oligarchic corruption with Kardashian excess and Harambe callbacks.

Verdict: A competent peer conversation grounded in real reporting and cultural criticism, but lacking original reporting, expert depth, or clear structural focus—solid for fans of the hosts but not essential listening.

Sports rubric

  • Analysis depth 3/5 20%

    Show notes reference substantive reporting (ProPublica, The Guardian) and touch on systemic issues (oligarchy, pay-to-play youth sports), but no evidence of original investigation or deep expert breakdown—appears to be informed commentary o

  • Insider knowledge 2/5 20%

    Guests are established media personalities but show notes don't indicate special access, reporting, or expert credentials beyond general sports media experience; relies on published investigations rather than original sourcing.

  • Entertainment 3/5 15%

    Mix of serious topics (oligarchy, trans debate) with lighter fare (Harambe, Poo-litzer jokes) and two experienced podcast hosts suggests engaging banter, but show notes don't convey specific comedic moments or energy level.

  • Substance 3/5 15%

    References serious investigative pieces and systemic issues (private equity in youth sports, oligarchic influence) but covers many topics in 52 minutes, suggesting potential for breadth over depth and possible padding with tangents.

  • Delivers on its title 3/5 15%

    Title "Share & Krang & Tell" suggests personal storytelling; episode does mix personal/cultural observations with reporting, but show notes don't clarify whether it's primarily narrative-driven or analysis-focused.

  • Value for time 3/5 15%

    52 minutes covering oligarchy, youth sports excess, bodily autonomy, and Harambe suggests reasonable pacing but also potential for scattered focus; no evidence of tight structure or unnecessary padding.

How we score Sports

Worth it if you enjoy Michael Cruz Kayne or Katie Nolan's takes on sports culture and politics, or want informed commentary on youth-sports excess and oligarchic influence blended with irreverent humor.

Based on the episode description. AI-generated; it can be wrong.

Show notes

How did the trans-athlete debate rear its oligarchic head in Donald Trump Jr.'s wedding? What messes up young athletes more: private equity... or being on a Kardashian reality show? And are you the maestro of your own body? Plus: non-suntans, Harambe and how to win a Poo-litzer. • Subscribe to "But Also" with Michael Cruz Kayne • Subscribe to "Casuals" with Katie Nolan Further content: • "Donald Trump Jr.'s Bahamas Wedding Was Secretly Bankrolled by Russian Oligarch Close to Putin" (ProPublica) • "Kim Kardashian's Team Moms highlights the ridiculous excess of the US youth-sports industry" (The Guardian) • "The Pay-to-Play Childhood" (New York) • Previously on PTFO: The Harambe Tapes, Revealed Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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