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Zach Sang Show ·Oct 7, 2026 ·51 min

Nessa Barrett on New Album 'Tough Love,' Writing Dark Romance Novels, “Dracula” and "Candy"

Evaluation and Summary

4.5/10

Zach Sang interviews singer-songwriter Nessa Barrett about her third album 'Tough Love,' released just five months after her EP 'Jesus Loves a PrimaDonna.' The conversation centers on the album's creative process, with Barrett explaining how the EP informed the new record and discussing her artistic persona 'Bunny' as an umbrella for various character facets. She walks through specific tracks including 'Fetish' (which she frames as a BPD anthem), 'Coming Home Again' (influenced by Fleetwood Mac and Eagles), 'Candy,' 'Dracula,' 'Glamorous,' and 'God Gave Me Expensive Taste,' touching on songwriting inspiration and the stories behind each. Barrett discusses intimate themes for the first time in her writing, addressing sex and intimacy while clarifying she isn't currently seeking romantic relationships. She also imagines how her exes might react to hearing themselves referenced in the music. Beyond music, the interview pivots to Barrett's passion for dark romance novels, particularly the 'Edge of Darkness' trilogy, and reveals she has written five books herself with potential plans to publish under a pseudonym. The conversation also covers lighter topics including her new tramp stamp tattoo, moonwater, and a humorous moment where Barrett admits unfamiliarity with the Sidekick phone. The episode appears to blend music promotion with personality-driven conversation typical of the Zach Sang Show format, mixing album discussion with personal anecdotes and tangential lifestyle topics.

Verdict: A competent celebrity interview that delivers album promotion and some personal insight but lacks musical depth and paces itself with tangential filler typical of the format.

Music rubric

  • Musical insight 2/5 20%

    Shows notes mention specific influences (Fleetwood Mac, Eagles) and song themes but provide no analysis of production, arrangement, or how musical choices serve the songwriting.

  • Access and stories 3/5 20%

    Barrett shares personal stories about writing intimate content for the first time and discusses her creative process with the 'Bunny' persona, but these appear to be standard interview anecdotes rather than exclusive insider revelations.

  • Discovery 4/5 15%

    The episode provides multiple album tracks to explore ('Fetish,' 'Coming Home Again,' 'Candy,' 'Dracula,' 'Glamorous,' 'God Gave Me Expensive Taste') plus a link to stream the full album, giving listeners clear music to pursue.

  • Substance 2/5 15%

    Show notes reveal significant time spent on tangential topics (tramp stamp, moonwater, Sidekick phones) alongside album discussion, suggesting padding that dilutes focus on the music itself.

  • Delivers on its title 4/5 15%

    The title promises discussion of the new album 'Tough Love' and the artist's work, which the episode delivers, though it also branches into unrelated lifestyle topics.

  • Value for time 2/5 15%

    At 51 minutes, the episode appears to drift between album promotion and celebrity gossip/lifestyle chat, suggesting it could be tighter if focused primarily on the music and creative process.

How we score Music

Worth it if you're a Nessa Barrett fan wanting to hear about 'Tough Love' and her creative process, or enjoy personality-driven celebrity interviews over musical analysis.

Content flags

  • Ad-heavy Multiple subscription prompts and streaming links suggest typical podcast ad load for this show format.

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Show notes

Nessa Barrett was just here five months ago to talk about her EP 'Jesus Loves a PrimaDonna' — and now she’s already back with her third album, 'Tough Love.' She talks about how that EP informed the new record, becoming Bunny — and the various characters on the record as facets of her — imagining her exes watching from the audience, making “Fetish” her BPD hot-girl anthem, the Fleetwood Mac and Eagles influence on “Coming Home Again,” and the stories behind “Candy,” “Dracula,” “Glamorous” and “God Gave Me Expensive Taste.” Nessa also opens up about sex, intimacy and why this is the first time she’s written about those experiences, plus why she isn’t looking for love right now. And then we get into her into her dark-romance obsession — specifically the ‘Edge of Darkness’ trilogy, the five books she’s apparently written, whether she’ll ever publish under an alias, her new-ish tramp stamp, moonwater — and Nessa having absolutely no idea what a Sidekick is. Stream "Tough Love"►► https://nessa.lnk.to/toughlove SUBSCRIBE to Our Podcast ►►https://tinyurl.com/48yfe4v5 SUBSCRIBE to YT ►►https://tinyurl.com/5n8km55u See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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