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The Holy Post ·Oct 7, 2026 ·1h 26m

741: Celebrity Pope, Christian Bloodlust & Is Israel Losing America with Todd Deatherage

Evaluation and Summary

5.4/10

The Holy Post episode 741 tackles three substantive religious and political topics. The hosts (Phil, Kaitlyn, and Mike Erre) open with a lighter segment on Pope Leo's unexpected celebrity draw in secular France, exploring whether visible Christian authenticity resonates even in post-Christian contexts. The main theological discussion centers on the death penalty following a botched execution in Tennessee. The hosts examine whether Christian theology actually demands capital punishment—specifically debating interpretations of "eye for an eye"—and whether the gospel calls Christians toward mercy and restorative justice instead. This segment appears to engage seriously with the tension between retributive justice frameworks and Christian mercy teachings. The final major segment features an interview with Todd Deatherage from the Telos Group on Israeli-Palestinian conflict escalation. Topics include settler violence in the West Bank, fallout from the Iran war, and shifting American political support for Israel across the political spectrum. The episode also includes a humorous aside about a Chihuahua working for Mexico's National Guard. The show notes indicate substantial content: four sponsor reads (Ridge, BetterHelp, Sundays Dog Food, Garrett Seminary) are interspersed, and a bonus extended interview with Deatherage is available to paid subscribers. The episode runs 86 minutes total.

Verdict: A solid episode tackling serious theological and geopolitical questions with credible guests, but moderate ad load and mixed topic weighting prevent it from being essential listening.

Religion & Spirituality rubric

  • Depth of teaching 3/5 20%

    The death penalty segment engages theological interpretation (eye-for-an-eye vs. gospel mercy), and the Israel segment addresses complex geopolitical dynamics, but show notes don't indicate how deeply these are explored or whether multiple

  • Respect and openness 3/5 20%

    Inviting a guest like Deatherage suggests openness to nuanced views on Israel; the death penalty framing ('does gospel call toward different vision') suggests willingness to question mainstream Christian positions, but the notes don't detai

  • Applicable to life 3/5 15%

    Death penalty and Israel-Palestine topics have direct moral and political implications for listeners; the Pope segment explores authenticity in faith practice, but without episode content it's unclear how actionable the guidance is.

  • Substance 3/5 15%

    Three distinct topics with apparent depth (theology, geopolitics, faith authenticity), but four sponsor reads in 86 minutes suggests moderate ad load; the Chihuahua segment appears to be filler padding.

  • Delivers on its title 4/5 15%

    Title promises 'Celebrity Pope, Christian Bloodlust & Israel Losing America'—all three topics are covered according to show notes, though the Pope segment appears brief relative to the others.

  • Value for time 3/5 15%

    86 minutes with multiple sponsor reads and a lighter opening segment; the core topics (death penalty theology, Israel-Palestine geopolitics) seem substantive but pacing cannot be fully assessed from notes alone.

How we score Religion & Spirituality

Worth it if you're interested in Christian perspectives on capital punishment and Middle East politics, or want to hear how faith communities grapple with contemporary moral crises.

Content flags

  • Ad-heavy Four sponsor reads (Ridge, BetterHelp, Sundays, Garrett Seminary) in an 86-minute episode represents roughly 5-7 minutes of ad content, which is substantial relative to the format.

Based on the episode description. AI-generated; it can be wrong.

Show notes

Why is Pope Leo drawing massive crowds in one of the most secular countries in Europe? Phil, Kaitlyn, and Mike Erre talk about the Pope's surprising celebrity in France and whether people are becoming more open to Christianity when they see it lived with sincerity and conviction. Then, after a botched execution in Tennessee, some Christian leaders are calling for a return to public hangings and firing squads. Is the death penalty really demanded by Christian theology, or does the gospel call Christians toward a different vision of justice and mercy? Finally, Skye talks with Todd Deatherage about escalating settler violence in the West Bank, the political fallout from the Iran war, and why support for Israel is shifting across the American political spectrum. And Phil has found a Chihuahua with a very important job. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://holypost.substack.com/p/741-celebrity-pope-christian-bloodlust?r=35kf51&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Bonus Interview with Todd Deatherage: https://holypost.substack.com/p/when-theology-becomes-a-weapon-bonus?r=35kf51&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web 0:00 - Show Starts 0:58 - Theme Song 1:20 - Sponsor - Ridge - The Ridge 5-in-1 Power Bank, power on-the-go without compromise! Get 40% off Ridge by going to https://www.ridge.com/HOLYPOST 2:47 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 3:48 - The Mexican National Guard's Cutest Agent 21:30 - Christians and the Death Penalty 34:15 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 35:18 - Sponsor - Garrett Theological Seminary - Garrett has a program for you! Apply by December 31st to receive a guaranteed scholarship covering 65–100% of tuition to begin a Master's degree for Fall 2027. Go to https://www.garrett.edu/holypost 36:30 - Eye for an Eye? 52:23 - Interview 53:53 - Update on Gaza and the West Bank 1:01:30 - Is a Two-State Solution Still Possible? 1:15:22 - Israel's Election 1:25:51 - End Credits Articles Discussed in News Segment: Mexico's National Guard's Cutest Member: https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cke878yzngd8o The Death Penalty: https://www.nationalreview.com/2026/10/what-the-modern-state-gets-wrong-about-execution/ Resources: Telos Group: https://www.telosgroup.org/ Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

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