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Still Coloring with Toni Collier ·Oct 7, 2026 ·53 min

When You’re Tired of Being Strong…Do This | Kaitlin Chappell Rogers

Evaluation and Summary

6.6/10

Still Coloring host Toni Collier interviews author Kaitlin Chappell Rogers about perseverance in the face of exhaustion and burnout. The episode centers on what it means to keep going when you're too tired to quit—not through heroic strength, but through small, incremental steps. Kaitlin shares her personal journey from broadcast journalism to writing, including dreams she surrendered and a decade-long wait to see answers to her prayers. She opens up about one of the darkest seasons of her life, emphasizing that perseverance doesn't always look impressive or strong; sometimes it looks like finding one reason to stay for one more day. Toni reciprocates vulnerability by discussing her own fear of failure and how that fear can paralyze action. The core teaching revolves around 'everyday perseverance'—a practical framework built on the idea that you don't need to solve your whole life today, carry tomorrow's burdens now, or tackle everything at once. Instead, the central question becomes: 'God, what is the next right thing?' and then asking for grace to do just that one thing. A key refrain throughout is 'Crawling still counts'—validating that progress doesn't require strength or speed. The episode is positioned for listeners who are exhausted, burned out, scared of failure, grieving, or overwhelmed, offering permission to take life one manageable step at a time. Kaitlin's new book, 'She Just Won't Quit: Embracing the Practice of Everyday Perseverance,' is promoted as a companion resource. The show notes also include calls to support the podcast through donations and purchase links for Toni's other books, positioning this as part of a larger ecosystem of Toni's content and merchandise.

Verdict: A warmly vulnerable conversation with practical takeaways for exhausted listeners, though the show notes don't reveal whether the depth and substance justify the full 53-minute runtime.

Religion & Spirituality rubric

  • Depth of teaching 3/5 20%

    The core teaching—breaking life into 'next right steps' and validating small progress—is practical and grounded in real experience, but the show notes don't reveal whether the conversation goes deeper into theological or psychological frame

  • Respect and openness 4/5 20%

    Both hosts share vulnerabilities and listen to each other's stories; the framing is warm and invitational rather than prescriptive, though the material doesn't show explicit engagement with opposing views.

  • Applicable to life 4/5 15%

    The 'next right step' framework and 'crawling still counts' message are directly actionable for listeners facing burnout or overwhelm; concrete enough to apply immediately.

  • Substance 3/5 15%

    The episode includes personal stories, a clear central theme, and practical takeaways, but the show notes don't indicate whether there's dense content throughout or if the 53 minutes includes padding and repetition.

  • Delivers on its title 5/5 15%

    The title 'When You're Tired of Being Strong…Do This' is directly addressed through the entire conversation about perseverance without strength and the 'next right step' framework.

  • Value for time 3/5 15%

    At 53 minutes with two guests sharing stories and a clear theme, the pacing likely works, but without hearing the episode, it's unclear whether the length is tight or includes slow stretches.

How we score Religion & Spirituality

Worth it if you're burned out, afraid of failure, or struggling to keep going and need permission to take life one small step at a time.

Content flags

  • Sponsored Episode prominently promotes Kaitlin's new book with Amazon affiliate link and includes multiple calls to donate to the podcast and purchase Toni's merchandise.

Based on the episode description. AI-generated; it can be wrong.

Show notes

What does it actually look like to keep going when you’re tired enough to quit? In this episode of the Still Coloring Podcast , Toni sits down with author and friend Kaitlin Chappell Rogers for a vulnerable, practical conversation about perseverance, failure, burnout, motherhood, rejection, obedience, spiritual warfare, and learning how to take life one next step at a time. Kaitlin shares the winding journey from broadcast journalism to writing, the dreams God asked her to surrender, and how some of the fruit she prayed for took nearly a decade to see. She also opens up about one of the darkest seasons of her life and the reality that perseverance does not always look strong or impressive. Sometimes it looks like finding one reason to stay for one more day. Toni gets vulnerable about her own fear of failure and how that fear can sometimes keep us from even starting the things God has called us to do. Together, they unpack the idea of everyday perseverance : You do not have to solve your whole life today. You do not have to carry tomorrow today. You do not have to eat the whole elephant. Sometimes you just need to ask: “God, what is the next right thing?” And then ask Him for the grace to do that. One of the most powerful reminders from this conversation is simple: Crawling still counts. If you are exhausted, burned out, scared to fail, grieving, overwhelmed, or wondering if you have enough left to keep going, this episode is for you. Grab Kaitlin’s new book She Just Won’t Quit: Embracing the Practice of Everyday Perseverance here: https://amzn.to/4j66UDe And if the Still Coloring Podcast has encouraged you, consider supporting the show through the donation link in the show notes as Toni continues building the podcast while raising her kids as a single mom. Watch the full episode on YouTube.com/@tonijcollier and share it with someone who needs the reminder that they do not have to do everything today. They just need the next right step. Watch podcast episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tonijcollier Support the Still Coloring Podcast: https://square.link/u/u2FkAzC7?src=sheet Shop Toni's merch: https://www.shopetch.co/collections/toni-collier Connect with Toni: Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tonijcollier Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stillcoloringpod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/colliertoni Newsletter: ToniJCollier.com/Newsletter Website: ToniJCollier.com Purchase Toni's newest book, Don’t Try This Alone: https://amzn.to/3BQqaBr Purchase Toni’s children’s book, Broken Crayons Still Color: https://amzn.to/3x3I4xD Purchase Toni’s first book , Brave Enough to be Broken: https://amzn.to/3VoCjVu

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