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New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce ·Oct 7, 2026 ·1h 56m

4-0 Chiefs, Lane Johnson Retires, Jason in London, Big Boy Plays, Ref Fights & Staying Positive w/Ben Affleck | Ep 205

Evaluation and Summary

3.9/10

New Heights episode 205 delivers a wide-ranging NFL discussion anchored by two major storylines: the Kansas City Chiefs' 4-0 start and Lane Johnson's surprise retirement from the Eagles. The Kelce brothers open with updates on their Kansas City tailgate (featuring Caitlin Clark fans), Travis's perspective on the Chiefs' dominant performance against the Raiders, and Jason's analysis of the struggling Eagles in light of Johnson's exit. The episode tackles officiating concerns, specifically the proliferation of flags this season, suggesting broader questions about how the game is being called. A new recurring segment, "The New Heights Top Ten," debuts, though specifics aren't detailed in the notes. The centerpiece is a substantial interview with Ben Affleck, which pivots away from pure sports into broader entertainment and life philosophy. Affleck discusses why he won't run for office, draws parallels between directing and player-coach roles, shares thoughts on the Patriots, and explores how to maintain positivity. The conversation expands into pop culture territory—debating the greatest kidnapping movie and Affleck's distaste for online gaming—making this less a sports-focused interview and more a celebrity chat that happens to occur on a sports podcast. The episode is heavily sponsored, with reads from Allstate, IKEA, American Express, Nike, PrizePicks, Colgate, and Pepsi, plus promotion of Affleck's Netflix project "Animals." The show notes emphasize the breadth of content rather than depth, listing topics without substantive detail about what was actually said or concluded. The episode runs nearly two hours, suggesting significant padding or tangential discussion beyond the core NFL narrative. While the Kelce brothers bring authentic insider perspective as recently retired players, the Affleck segment appears designed primarily for celebrity appeal and cross-promotional value rather than sports insight.

Verdict: A celebrity-driven episode with solid insider perspective from the Kelces but diluted by heavy sponsorship, off-topic tangents, and unclear substantive depth on its promised NFL storylines.

Sports rubric

  • Analysis depth 2/5 20%

    Topics listed (flags, 4-0 feeling, retirement) lack substantive breakdown; Affleck segment is conversational rather than analytical.

  • Insider knowledge 4/5 20%

    Jason and Travis offer genuine player perspective on Eagles and Chiefs, though the Affleck interview provides no sports expertise.

  • Entertainment 3/5 15%

    Ben Affleck guest spot adds celebrity appeal and variety, but substance of banter unclear from notes; likely enjoyable but not exceptional.

  • Substance 2/5 15%

    Heavy sponsorship load, pop culture tangents (kidnapping movies, online gaming), and vague topic listings suggest significant filler relative to core sports content.

  • Delivers on its title 2/5 15%

    Title promises Chiefs, Lane Johnson, and Jason in London, but notes mention Kansas City tailgate and London without detail; Affleck interview dominates runtime but isn't promised in title.

  • Value for time 2/5 15%

    Nearly two hours with multiple sponsor reads, celebrity tangents, and unclear segment depth suggests the episode could be significantly tighter.

How we score Sports

Worth it if you're a Chiefs or Eagles fan seeking player perspective, or a Ben Affleck fan willing to sit through sports talk for celebrity access.

Content flags

  • Ad-heavy Seven major sponsor reads (Allstate, IKEA, Amex, Nike, PrizePicks, Colgate, Pepsi) plus Netflix promotion for Affleck's project in a 116-minute episode.
  • Sponsored Ben Affleck segment appears timed to promote his Netflix film "Animals" releasing October 9th.

Based on the episode description. AI-generated; it can be wrong.

Show notes

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Reese’s! Today we are joined by Ben Affleck! First, an update on our Kansas City tailgate that Caitlin Clark fans are going to want to hear, Travis describes that 4-0 feeling after holding off the Raiders, Jason tries to make sense of the Eagles, we react to the breaking news of Lane Johnson’s retirement, try to figure out what’s going on with all the flags this season, and debut the first installment of “The New Heights Top Ten” Finally, we are joined by Ben Affleck. We hear why Ben isn’t running for office any time soon, why directing is like being a player/coach, his thoughts on the Patriots, how to stay positive, the greatest kidnapping movie of all time, why he hates online gaming, and so much more! For more details on our Kansas City Tailgate, visit: https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/46E1CFEB-2821-4D5B-988D-BA4A007CAA2B?ingress=0&visitId=f310b12b-4560-45f8-b01c-a088f366ada9 Check out Ben Affleck in “Animals” on Netflix October 9th. https://www.netflix.com/search?q=animals&jbv=81757047 Watch and listen to new episodes of New Heights every Wednesday during the NFL season and follow us on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshow You can also listen to new episodes on Wondery, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. . . . Watch the full episode here: Prime: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/0JLG80EV3QTOUJWLN8KSQ3OSTL?ref_=atv_dp_share_cu_r Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynw Support the show: ALLSTATE: Check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds: https://Allstate.com . IKEA: Discover what's new at IKEA. Shop the latest products in-store or online at https://IKEA.us/DiscoverNew . IKEA. Dream the possibilities. AMERICAN EXPRESS: Learn more about Amex‘s partnership with the NFL at https://go.amex/nfl and learn more about The Platinum Card® at https://go.amex/platinum NIKE: The Nike Caitlin 1’s are out now. Shop on https://Nike.com , Footlocker, or Dick’s Sporting Goods. PRIZEPICKS: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NEWHEIGHTS and use code NEWHEIGHTS and get $150 if you win your first $5 lineup! COLGATE: Colgate Total prevents problems before they start. Available on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/ColgateTotalAmazon . PEPSI: Tailgating Deserves Pepsi. Food Deserves Pepsi. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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