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Not Just A Terrible Story ·Oct 6, 2026 ·32 min

The Guys at the Door | Episode 5

Evaluation and Summary

5.4/10

Episode 5 of 'Not Just A Terrible Story' examines the aftermath of Brett's loss of his teaching license and its ripple effects on his family, particularly his wife Stacie. The episode explores how rumors spread through the small community of Gresham following the license revocation, and frames the narrative around Stacie's struggle to escape a situation she doesn't fully understand. The show notes suggest this is part of a larger investigative series about educator sexual misconduct. The episode includes references to expert contributors Jim Cole (host of 'Unlikely Allies' podcast) and Josh Findley (associated with OneMi Global), indicating some reporting depth. The show provides extensive resources for listeners, including the RAINN hotline, Safe Oregon's reporting mechanism for educator misconduct (844-472-3367), and links to advocacy organizations like S.E.S.A.M.E., Enough Abuse, and Stop Sexual Assault in Schools. This suggests the podcast takes the subject matter seriously and aims to serve both survivors and those seeking to report misconduct. The 32-minute runtime indicates a focused episode rather than an exhaustive deep-dive. The show notes hint at a narrative structure centered on personal impact and community dynamics rather than pure investigative journalism, with emphasis on Stacie's perspective and her search for understanding. The availability of bonus content, archival photos, and exclusive material on their Substack suggests additional reporting exists beyond what's in the main episode. The framing around 'escape' and not knowing 'what she's running from' indicates the episode likely explores psychological and emotional dimensions of living with the consequences of educator misconduct, not just factual recounting.

Verdict: A responsible, victim-focused episode on educator misconduct with solid reporting infrastructure, but limited source material prevents confirming whether it achieves gripping storytelling or original investigative depth.

True Crime rubric

  • Research depth 3/5 20%

    Expert contributors and extensive resource lists suggest solid reporting, but show notes don't detail original interviews, records work, or investigative findings

  • Storytelling 3/5 20%

    The framing around Stacie's perspective and the 'escape' narrative suggests engaging personal storytelling, but without hearing the episode, depth is unclear

  • Respect for victims 4/5 15%

    Extensive victim resources, partnerships with advocacy organizations, and victim-centered framing (Stacie's perspective) indicate thoughtful approach to sensitive material

  • Substance 3/5 15%

    32 minutes with expert guests and community focus suggests solid content, though show notes don't reveal whether it's dense with detail or more narrative-focused

  • Delivers on its title 3/5 15%

    Title suggests a specific story; show notes confirm it covers Brett's license loss and its aftermath, but 'The Guys at the Door' remains unexplained in available material

  • Value for time 3/5 15%

    32 minutes is reasonable for an episode with multiple perspectives, though pacing cannot be assessed from show notes alone

How we score True Crime

Worth it if you're interested in the personal and community impact of educator sexual misconduct, or seeking resources and reporting information on this issue.

Based on the episode description. AI-generated; it can be wrong.

Show notes

After Brett lost his teaching license, life was never the same. The rumor mill in Gresham was in full force. They needed an escape. But can Stacie truly escape if she doesn’t know what she’s running from? Check out Jim Cole's new podcast, Unlikely Allies: https://ourrescue.org/unlikelyallies Learn more about Josh Findley's work: https://www.onemi-global.com/ Reach out to our team at terriblestorypodcast@gmail.com . For more exclusive content head to terriblestory.substack.com . Get free access to archival photos, resources, and bonus stories that didn't make the cut. Plus — get early, ad-free episodes as a paid subscriber. If you or anyone you know is experiencing sexual violence and needs help, please visit rainn.org or call the national hotline at 800-656-HOPE (4673) or text HOPE to 64673. You can anonymously report school employee boundary crossing and grooming and educator sexual misconduct to Safe Oregon. You can call or text 844-472-3367 or email tip@safeoregon.com . If you’d like to learn more about educator sexual misconduct and get involved, there are many great organizations doing research, education and advocacy work, including: S.E.S.A.M.E. – Stop Educator Sexual Abuse Misconduct & Explotation Enough Abuse The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children American Association Of University Women Stop Sexual Assault in Schools

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